Un raid, le risque et comment ça commence

Avec les inspections illégales (et les conséquences) qui se déroulent dans le moment au Québec, vous vous devez de lire et méditer le texte suivant.

Mêmes excuses au Québec que les inspectrices doivent investiguer une "plainte". Elles ont bien soin de garder la plainte confidentielle (s'il y en a une) pour utiliser n'importe quelle excuse pour leur intervention tout croche et illégale.

‎Linda L. Minten‎ à Farmers to Felons - laws, regulations, and the advancement of animal rights

25 juillet

Scenario 1- Home fixing dinner when you get a knock on the door. Animal control is investigating a complaint of animal neglect. You are shocked because your animals are like family and you take exceptional care of them. They explain they get calls like this all the time and it isn't a big deal but they do have to investigate.

Okay, so you let them in and you show them your animals.. This is Sparky and he is fifteen years old had him since he was a pup. Moving on to Buddy who is a young cat that is very shy.. then outside to your pen of fat hens - some old, some young. You comment that most don't lay anymore. You have a goat and he is super friendly, Saved him from getting butchered and he just kinda hangs out on the farm. You have two horses, also older - one a hard keeper with cancer. You would never think of sending them to auction or killing them so you have provided a retirement home to the end of their days.

The officer thanks you and you think you are good to go.. you are NOT. You see your dog has tarter on his teeth, your cat isn't socialized and is fearful, your goat had a tad bit of hoof rot, chickens appear to have lice, and those horses... well, one has chipped feet (yes it is summer) and then of course the old one with cancer is thin and the officer doesn't agree with your feeding plan even though a vet gave it to you.

Because the officer isn't a regular deputy they were not required to go through the regular training programs but rather through ones required offered by the HSUS. Most of the training focuses on identifying neglect. Considering many of these groups are animal rights groups it is a bit tainted. Nonetheless, they are the legal enforcing officer who has the absolute power to destroy you.

They have no animal degree and operate on their two day class and feelings. In their opinion you are neglecting your animals. They give you a kind nod and then immediately reach out to the rescue that originally reported you.

Soon a posse of trailers with and an AC with warrant in hand tells you to sit down. You watch your animals hauled out of your home terrified and thrown into small cages without food or water. You are given a citation to appear in court or in some cases arrested. You are in shock.. how could this be. It must be a misunderstanding.

During the seizure they take note of your home and consider it deplorable. Wow, that stings. You may not be the best housekeeper in the world but your house isn't a threat to human or animal. So your laundry is on the couch and a few dishes are in the sink.

It is five in the morning when they come to your door and you just barely got up.. haven't put out food for the animals yet and generally feed at eight. They note there was inadequate water.. yet there was water. Does this mean there wasn't enough for say a week, month, what. You don't understand. They note the water is dirty - but yet it was only just one kibble that had been dropped into it. The horse water is dirty and they take pictures of the brown colored water. Sure it is dirty, the old horse dumps his hay into it before he eats it. It was just changed yesterday.

Now in a panic you reach out to an attorney. Twenty grand up front and most won't touch you wiht a ten foot pole. Your vet has been burned in these cases before when they have had to go up against the AR vet assigned to the case. They are scared they will end up getting into trouble too. Yes, they did say to not worry about the tarter because the procedure to clean the teeth could kill your old dog but dang... we are up against the big boys now.

Your friends will come to your defense - nope, they too want miles away from an animal abuser. Hundreds of people will call for your head, you will get death threats, this process will take everything you love away from you.

Meanwhile your animals are taken in and checked with a fine tooth comb. Is that a flea? Charges increase with each find. Yes your chickens have lice but you treat them regularly.. same with the horses feet as they are trimmed every six weeks. You are up to twenty five counts of neglect. The media has a hay day and the front page picture is that of them hauling your animals out of your home in hazmat suits - really? This is Chernoble. (les habits blancs et les masques ne sont que pour les caméras des médias, nous avons des témoignages)

Maybe a few people will question why your animals all appear to be in great shape but they too will be silenced... you find yourself very alone and isolated.. depression sets in. You put your faith in the justice system to right this wrong...

You soon find that your animals are being cared for at your expense even if you win. (quand le mapaq est allé chercher les chats du refuge de Lachine, la dame a dû admettre en Cour qu'elle n'avait pas les $250 000 qu'on lui demandait et les chats sont partis pour l'abattoir (?)

Give them up now or you could be looking at hundreds of thousands of dollars. You feel forced and it breaks your heart but you do... and then it shows how little you love or care for your animals making you seem even more guilty. In reality you are doing it for your animals because to spend two or three years locked in a kennel is unfathomable. Just release then they say so we can find them good homes. You do. The rescue will then sell your animals while also getting donations and in some cases receive more funds via government contracts. Unfortunately your old animals are unadoptable so they are killed. Can it get worse you ask?

Meanwhile it is near impossible to get any info on your case. You ask for the records on your animals and they don't match up, some are missing. You ask for vet records, rescue information, etc. and don't hold your breath cause it is very likely you will never see them. Your court appointed attorney isn't too keen on representing an animal abuser and would much rather have a child rape case. Pretty soon it becomes clear you are going to lose. Generally at this point you are two years in and have nothing left. You were fired, your church asked you not to come back... your house is in foreclosure.

You find out that this rescue has been doing this before and can prove it was a set up. Then you find out they have immunity. You find out the prosecutor is animal rights funded and he and the judge received training from the same AR groups. You are forced to take a plea to avoid hard jail time. You pay your fines and think it is over..

But as a part of sentencing you will be banned from owning any animals for a good deal of time. Maybe forever. You are now listed on a federal registry. You can't vote or have a gun... you must list you are a felon on all of your employment applications. All of this and yet your true heartbreak is losing your animals and hoping the ones that were not killed are happy.

Folks, this group wasn't formed to protect true criminal neglect. This group was formed to bring light to a very corrupt system where innocent people are being charged with felony animal neglect and having no due process. It is to expose the "follow the money" of rescue and to expose how the animal rights groups have infiltrated and control our legislators, enforcement officers, and courts to reach the ultimate goal of animal abolishment.

I can assure you, there is no animal owner today that is not at risk of what I have laid out above. Farmers and animal breeders are a million more times at risk. If you think for one moment it could never happen to you - think again. It is only a matter of time.before you or someone you love is impacted.

Heck, we are already impacted - breeders forced out, farmers attacked and us shaking in our shoes wondering if it is all worth the risk to own an animal. We live in fear as we should.

Are we not protected in our rights -?? "Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person" We all have the right to live in freedom and safety." I am not feeling so secure or free these days... are you?

**** for those who have commented "Don't let them in" please do a quick search on exigent circumstances for animals where a warrant is not required.

Les médias et les poursuites contre les rescues

Il ne faut pas s'attendre au support des médias devant toute cette corruption qui gère la vie des québécois.

Pour aider les rescues victimes d'inspections illégales, il va falloir s'unir et se présenter dans les salles de cour en soutien à la victime. Je demande à celles qui sont poursuivies de nous laisser connaître les date et endroit où on peut agir efficacement.

Le commentaire plus bas est en relation avec l'arrestation illégale de notre amie Elizabeth Elle est emprisonnée depuis plus d'un an à NY sans avoir eu de procès. Les communications sont difficiles et les avocats de la défense ne veulent pas nous parler alors qu'on aurait de l'aide à apporter.

C'est ce qui nous guette toutes. Il faut travailler ensemble pour repousser les attaques des ARs.

Rusty Nale sur facebook
I'm not sure about media support. From my view I see the most meaningful help in people showing up at court hearings on behalf of the raid victim.
Head count which speaks of awareness of government corruption and that citizens are no longer going to tolerate deep states and corruption both local and federal.
We need physical support in court rooms. This means we need leaders to organize at grass roots and caravan to hearings w/ride sharing and sharing on gas. The ARs have been organized for years while we eat dust and hold empty tin cups. .

De la fabrication de preuve

Les organisations prédatrices qui font des raids sont passées maitres dans l'art de la fabrication de preuve. Exemple: leur notion de salubrité est impossible à évaluer et ils ajoutent toujours le fameux "odeurs nauséabondes". Parce que les odeurs ça ne se mesure pas mais c'est drôlement subjectif.

Alors quand l'inspectrice se présente en Cour et dit n'importe quoi sous serment, quand elle n'est même pas allée sur les lieux, c'est plus que subjectif, c'est de la fabrication de preuve.

Une accusation de négligence criminelle peut virer aussi à n'importe quoi et même un procès devant jury ne peut assurer l'accusé que ses droits seront protégés.

Linda L. Minten

Administrateur(trice) · de la page facebook Farmers to Felons

What is criminal neglect? Why is it subjective and poorly defined in so many laws? Why are we seeing cases where healthy animals are being considered criminally neglected? We have varying opinions regarding the true definition of criminal neglect and therein lies a huge problem. What a farmer would see as normal vs an animal rights activist is going to see criminal neglect. Now tell me who wins in a court case? Who will the public side with?

We have seen some pretty big whoppers lately where healthy dogs are hauled out of their home and crammed in cages stacked while sitting in the sun for hours while other animals are processed. They are then loaded into vehicles not always designed for this purpose. Just takes a target on your back... aka farmer, breeder, good rescue, just out of the hospital, just lost your job. I swear some of these groups have spidey senses and know when to hit you hard. - generally first thing in the morning before chores are done.

While they seize on one animal, they tend to find something wrong with every animal and they generally take all. So how are they charging criminal neglect, sometimes at the felony level, on dogs because their nails are too long? Maybe a water bucket was tipped over.. maybe your yard is dirty and has an old swing with sharp metal on the bench swing. I sometimes feel as if things are helped along in some cases because they can't find anything wrong.. are they intentionally setting people up?

Shouldn't true criminal neglect be pretty evident? I guess we are just supposed to take their word for it and move on.. and send money too please.

Because the definition of neglect is so often subjective I have a solution... stop looking at the facility, water bowl, etc. and look at the animal. Is the animal in good weight, hydrated. happy? Is there anything seriously wrong with the animal and if so is it being treated?

If there are fifty cattle and one has pink-eye then why take the whole herd? The farmer is treating it (right, but he didn't call the vet). The other animals are fine... Are they really.. what about parasites? That cow over there has a cracked hoof.

There is a reason the AR groups that write the legislation keep it pretty open to interpretation and it isn't to give an accused the benefit... But here is the rub - only their opinion will count in the court of public opinion. They say "deplorable, neglect, suffering" and you are toast. Sure you think it is crazy stupid and you are going to fight this and win.. guess again cause that is not how it works. Ask Ringling Brothers and compared to them you are small potatoes. Discounting the seriousness at this point is common and it will bite you.

The next phase is "the judge or jury are smarter than that - they will see the logic"... guess again. Who trained those folks? If you said the animal rights groups give yourself a point. If you're lucky you find a lawyer.. and it will cost you especially with the delays and the bond fees for care you will have to pay. Are you getting why we need clearly defined minimum standards for everyone with no exceptions? Can you see why we need to move away from the gotchas and focus on condition?

We have very little power or influence and they have a ton. We have to start protecting and promoting animal before it is too late.

Opacité des raids

Si les organisations. qui font des raids pour voler les animaux publiaient ces informations, le public pourrait peut-être les croire mais sans cette info, ils ne sont que d'obscures entités qui agressent des personnes vulnérables pour leur voler leurs biens.

Laura Bell
If the reason they are seizing is for the stated reasons, they should have no problem publicly posting
1. date stamped photos and videos of ALL of the dogs and the property before they are removed
2. Photos and videos of ALL of the dogs being removed
3. Photos and videos of ALL of the dogs where they are being kept after seizure
4. Vet reports and invoices of all of the dogs after vet examination
5. If euthanized, post euthanasia reports and invoices
6. Detailed financials posted for designated fundraisers
7. Photos and videos of dogs in their new adoptive homes
8. Salaries/hourly wage paid to employees of the spca.

If those who are seizing animals would in the name of accountability post all that information and documentation regarding exactly why animals must be seized, they really might make believers out of skeptics.
However, OFTEN, that information is NEVER shown even in court proceedings and that's a primary reason so many people just don't believe the seizure was in the best interests of the animals.